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Composed by: Toan Nguyen

Length: 2:54

     
Composer's Notes My main goal was to get the serenity that's left in the woods, while slowly blending in the chaos that the fire brings. I find the song to be more serene than chaotic, but others may think otherwise. They say that red is the first thing that captures ones eye, and afterwards, what's around the red is ignored. My song is going to show you around that red blaze.
Peer Review Notes

RATING SYSTEM

General

  1. Complexity - The complexity of the piece, rated as to not too simple nor too complex, but a smooth blend of both.

  2. Instrumentation - Using instruments to their full effectiveness. Being able to know how and when to introduce or end an instrument.

  3. Composition - Power of the melody, and the strength of the Harmonics. Melodies are meant to have a voice, and harmonics are meant to support. Without a voice, harmonics have nothing to support. Without support, there isn't much to carry that voice to the top.

  4. Initial Inspiration - How well does the song match the picture?  (We used) the composer notes that support how everything is played out, (in order) to help us interpret how the composer was inspired.  This whole competition (was) derived from a picture, and therefore, this category is worth 30% of the overall grade.

Specifics

  1. Opening - The introduction to the piece. Without an introduction, there isn't much to get the listener interested.

  2. Middle - The main theme of the piece. What is keeping the listener in-tune and in-check with the song. With a good introduction and a bad middle theme, the listener may be listening to the song, but not pay attention.

  3. Ending - The climax to the piece. The ending, what ends it all, what helps give the song it's amazing finish. The smooth shiny polish of a wooden furniture, the glaze on a ceramics piece, the icing on a cake. It is all over the place in the world of fine art.

General Points Possible   70
Specific Points Possible  30
Total Points Awarded 100
Critical Evaluation
Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 40 100
Appropriateness Lever 0.6 1.0

Sub-Enya! What pleasant wafting Gaelic-style music has to do with forest fires defeats me. It’s melancholic, I’ll give you that. And pleasantly melodic too. Turn out more of this with really memorable tunes and I suspect you could sell enough albums to make a living. But it’s too soft-centred and, to me, has nothing to do with forest fires however pleasant its wafting atmosphere is! Sorry I can’t be more positive about this piece.

By: wobbie

Score: 24
Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 55 100
Appropriateness Lever 0.5 1.0

As this was the first piece I heard, I had a sinking feeling, there was no tension, no contrast, it was if the film of the fire was being told in silent footage, mostly in slow motion, like an art film that no-one understands. There was no complexity with a limited tonal palette - the individual melodies were applied in layers without any use of compositional devices such as canon or rhythmic devices as augmentation or diminution. The aim was serenity, where was that in the picture, where was that reflected in the title of the piece. Nothing added up. The music was bland and pleasant enough to listen to but ultimately it bored me.

By: Judge No. 1 (See Notes)

Score: 28
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Complexity 25 50

It seems as if you were going for a minimalistic feel. I like the motif you have on the harp. It keeps the movement of the piece going well. I think it would be much more interesting if you used different chord progressions later in the piece. It feels harmonically static the way you have it now. From a listener's standpoint, that's just fine, but from a compositional standpoint, your piece would be greatly improved if you had more harmonic variety.

Orchestration 10 25 I don't feel that you used the instruments you had chosen to their full potential. The harp repeats the same motif throughout most of the piece, and the chorus usually just sings chords. You could have also done more with the percussion and piano. Mainly, you need more variety in your orchestral writing. Use the instruments in ways that show the uniqueness of that particular instrument. Always ask yourself, "Why do I want the oboe to play this melody here?" or "Why does this part work better for the trumpet as opposed to the clarinet?" Just keep in mind that every instrument is there for a reason, and each should be used in a way that is appropriate for that particular instrument.
Composition 15 25

Your piece was pleasant and easy on the ears. However, I wouldn't listen to it again after this competition. I think one of the main reasons for this is that the melodies just didn't grab me. To me, this felt like background music - not something I'd actually sit down and listen to. 

Relevance 1.0 1.0

I thought it fit the theme accurately. I could visualize the fire while listening to it.

It would have helped quite a bit if you would have posted the score, by the way.

By: Judge No. 2

Score: 50
Peer Evaluation

From the composer of: Affordable Wisdom

Score: 84
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Complexity 10 15

Rating this piece was kind of hard for me, as I could never find the right distinction between "this interpretation is very original" and "this interpretation is just inappropriate". The beginning is really calm and it gave a nice view on the mood of a regular forest. However, whenever the song gets a bit more "chaotic", as the composer notes, it doesn't sound like either a serene forest, nor a massive forest fire. Its complexity is okay, though. The harp motives are repeated endlessly, but with lots of added instruments and melodies (that) it doesn't get annoying. Orchestration sounds, well, like it's been copied right from your average RPG track, which isn't really a good thing. Although it sounds nice, the composer didn't show much of his creativity by orchestrating this piece in a striking way. Just as the beginning, the ending was very nice, yet not very appropriate and a bit sudden too (the climax to get to the last ‘outburst’, if there's one, is about 2 seconds =P). The middle tends to get a bit boring compared to the other two parts, hence the somewhat lower rating.

Orchestration 7 15
Composition 12 15
Appropriateness 10 20
Beginning/Start 5 5
Middle/Climax 3 5
Ending 5 5
Overall Opinion 15 20
Bonus/Malus

none given

 

From the composer of: Blisters

Score: 67
A few Final Fantasy elements can be heard in the piece, but with good usage and discretion. Compositionally, it wasn't satisfying enough. Fairly nice development/overlapping of melodies and orchestration. Overall a short and sweet piece.

However, the music itself doesn't fit into the picture, despite the description given. The song is too much in the serene side. I would prefer a bit more chaotic if given such a scenario, or at least a balance between serene and chaotic. After all, this is still a forest fire.

For the middle section, I would prefer a modification in the accompaniment. The repetition of the motive in the bass part was just too redundant.

The ending could be better, as in more dramatic. The ending of the last
melody (last 4 notes) killed the mood.
Criterion Pts. Total
Complexity 10 15
Orchestration 11 15
Composition 10 15
Appropriateness 14 20
Beginning/Start 4 5
Middle/Climax 3 5
Ending 3 5
Overall Opinion 15 20
Bonus/Malus
Instruments blend quite well together in the middle

+2

From the composer of: Fate of the Forest

Score: 72
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Complexity 16 20 Simple, but effective in its simplicity
Orchestration 15 20 The orchestration is pretty basic, but used well
Beginning 3 5 The solo harp is pretty, but the harmonic progression seems a little TOO sweet and serene compared to the moodier tone of the rest of the piece (I understand this is intentional, but the transition to the grim remainder of the piece is jarring)
Middle 5 5 Once the percussion enters, this piece really gets into its stride. The mood is a lot clearer.
Ending 3 5 It might have been stylistically appropriate, but I would have liked something a little more conclusive than the piece simply ending as it does.
Overall Composition Quality 17 25 I enjoyed the piece, but I felt it could have used a little more variety. It seems like you just layered more instruments on and off without really building tension or "moving" anywhere.
Appropriateness 17 20 Although the quasi-industrial/ambient approach you took was surprising, it succeeded in conveying a sense of tragedy nevertheless

From the composer of: Forest Fire: A Brief Tone Poem for Orchestra

Score: 76
This piece reminded me of a forest, but not (of) a forest fire. I saw peaceful and verdant forest lands, not a wasteland of destruction. The composer’s intention may have been to show what’s beyond the fire, but then why use the forest fire picture as an inspiration to begin with? I feel this piece was not relevant to the provided image because I heard no vestige of a fire.

The harp at the beginning and then piano later were a bit repetitive. Understandably a picture is being painted, but there is no rhythmic shift; just repeated note values. It sounds like the composer laid this foundation and decided to keep it going the whole song, not paying attention to it. It only stops at the end. I wish more attention was devoted to it for the duration of the piece. Therefore I feel this is too ‘simple.’

The harmonies and melodies are nice; the percussion gives the piece depth, but it sounds just like a loop, with no real thought to their effect on the music as much as it provides that.

Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 75 100
Appropriateness Lever 0.75 1.0

From the composer of: Inferno

Score: 56
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Setting 7 10

It does well, but stays with one clear idea and loses some of the underlying messages that could be seen within the scene.

Composition 6 10

The chord progressions are very common and are not unique. The sound is atmospheric but stale and static.

Orchestration 4 10

The layer-on-layer type of song is very  contemporary pop and is not too interesting.

Overall Score 5 10  

From the composer of: Music for Trumpet and Strings

Score: 55
Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 88 100
Appropriateness Lever 1.0 1.0

From the composer of: Of Desperation, Death, and Hope

Score: 88
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Relevance 7 10

Using the notes given, the relevance to the topic is clear. However, if I look at the picture given initially, I feel that the piece does not quite match. Sure, the ‘red haze’ and ‘peaceful’ explanation can be given, but I really do feel that this piece gets a little wrapped up in its serene nature. It feels a bit like a pop song, something that’d be played during a slow motion emotional scene. I’m not hearing the ‘chaos’ interwoven. Still, as this contest is not about the absolute relevance to the picture but rather about the link to the picture through the notes given, I chose to give it an above average score.

Orchestration 7 10 It was a bit random in the orchestration. There was suddenly choir, out of nowhere, and oboe and flute… I didn’t feel as if it was really coherent. It was good that they were brought back at 2:30 but then suddenly they dropped off again and it ended. It is difficult to rate the orchestration of a piece not intended to be performed, so I rather evaluated the inclusion/coherency of instruments. Better than average, but still work to be done.
Overall Effect 15 20 I think overall this is a well written piece that is just a little simple for my tastes. The ostinato got tiring (being present throughout the whole piece) and, though I realize that the writer was trying to convey the serene and peaceful aspects of a forest fire, I do not quite understand the relation to the topic. The melody does not really stick with me, and being a largely tonal and simple work it really should if it is written well. I would advise the writer to pay more attention to form and instrumentation in the future – this is not a bad effort, mind. Definitely above average.

From the composer of: Prelude for Solo Piano

Score: 73
Criterion Pts. Total
Complexity 11 15
Orchestration 11 15
Composition 10 15
Appropriateness 14 20
Beginning 3 5
Middle/Climax 4 5
Ending 3 5
Overall Opinion 14 20
Bonus/Malus none given

From the composer of: Tell Me About The Forest

Score: 70
Technical Elements [35/60]:
  • Harmony: The 6,7,8 progression makes for a decent thematic element in the piece but it becomes overused by the end. Since you stay in the same key area the entire way through the piece, it gets boring quite quickly. The piece is the same the entire way through. Try something new for a change.
  • Development: You kept the material stylistically consistent but it was almost to the point of nausea. The piece isn’t loose and unrelated but it doesn’t vary enough to maintain interest.
  • Orchestration: I like choral pads. I also like oboes. It’s a shame the instruments were always serving the same role through your entire piece.
  • Form: This piece reminds me of the techno version of an RPG track with that prevalent and repetitive harp ostinato. The alternation to between the harmonically static ‘B’ section and the mobile 6,7,8 ‘A’ section give the piece some sort of a form. Also, while the beginning and end are predictable, they work.
  • Overall, this piece is suitable to work as background music in a game and probably is better than the music in Legend of Dragoon but really cannot stand alone as a work of art.

Musicality [15/20]

Relevance [10/20]:

  • I don’t get how this is related. The composer's notes makes sense, but the music does not.

Overall Thoughts [C / Acceptable]. This really is a pleasant piece. I don’t mind listening to it.

From the composer of: The Dance of the Clumsy Bear

Score: 60
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Overall Evaluation 50 100

(Too) simple in composition and orchestration, but a nice melody.

Appropriateness Lever 0.7 1.0

I like the melancholic mood.

From the composer of: The Wildfire Suite

Score: 35

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