Tell Me About the Forest
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Composed by: Thomas Dietrich

Length: 5:48

     
Composer's Notes Well, I am pretty sure I chose a style that might be not consistent with the picture at first. However, I think that this style is perfect to describe the dramatic situation in the picture. It's pretty fast and powerful trance-techno tune, which has its slow moments, too, though.

As for the song itself:

0:00-0:40 - Intro; the song begins with a drumbeat, and slowly builds up until the piano sets in which paves the way for...
0:41-1:34 - Chapter I; a symbiosis of loud techno beats, drums and the kind of melancholic piano, which should describe the situation that can be seen in the picture.
1:35-2:30 - Breakdown; a rather slow part compared to the rest of this tune.
2:31-3:37 - Buildup; another slow part, the first few seconds describe the silence, the eerie situation in the forest. Then, the instruments build up again, and a solo piano paves the way for...
3:38-5:13 - Chapter II; the fulminant finale. Some of the sound pieces used in there should be familiar to the one or other RPG fan.
5:14-5:48 - Outtro; a slow, quiet ending

 
So, pump up the volume, I hope you will enjoy my composition!

This piece has been composed with Fruity Loops. If you are interested in the .FLP file, feel free to contact me anytime!

Critical Evaluation
Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 50 100
Appropriateness Lever 0.6 1.0

With a title that is a cross between a Bax Symphonic Poem and the titles of movements from Mahler’s Third Symphony, I have to admit that I am out of sympathy with the style of this piece, not caring much for techno or trance outside of the local disco. However the work seems well structured and although the thematic material seems minimal, it is nevertheless melancholic, which the composer intended. Its chief characteristic, which is appropriate for infernos, is that it seems relentless; otherwise I don’t really quite see the relevance to the picture. My main criticism of this kind of piece is that however much facility it shows for the use of hypnotic pounding rhythms, it reveals a paucity of invention and imagination. Personally I think this composer should break out of the straightjacket of techno-trance and try something a bit more adventurous. I suspect he might be able to do so quite successfully.

By: wobbie

Score: 30
Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 56 100
Appropriateness Lever 0.7 1.0

This piece exhibited a good sense of forward movement in the accompaniment. Unfortunately, the stiff bland melody line weakened the argument.  The impression was of a journey with little or no danger - there was not enough variety.  The ending sounded as if someone had just poured a bucket of water all over it, and it was out just like that! It was far too abrupt and the feeling of having escaped the flames or found an oasis of safety was not given to the audience.

By: Judge No. 1 (See Notes)

Score: 39
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Complexity 25 50

My main criticism is that your piece has very little variety. It sounds the same throughout almost all 5 1/2 minutes. I like the section starting around 2:31 the most, because it breaks the monotony a bit, but sure enough, you return to the exact same atmosphere you had before. The motif you've used throughout the piece gets a bit annoying by the end, because you haven't really developed it much at all. The complexity seems to get dense toward the end, but I can't be sure of this without the score. The part from 5:29 on needs to be rewritten or shortened.

Orchestration 10 25 Your orchestration needs a lot of work. All of the instruments seem to repeat what they're doing throughout the entire piece - you need to add more to their parts to make the music more interesting. It would also help if you developed the themes you have in there more - change them a bit more, add to them. This will make your piece much better right away.
Composition 15 25 I don't know if your idea was minimalism, but even with minimalism you need to develop your ideas more to make them interesting for the entire duration of the piece. I suggest that you listen to the music of Philip Glass, since that seems to be the sort of style you were aiming for, perhaps with some Techno influences.
Relevance 0.8 1.0 I didn't get a very strong feeling of a forest fire. You could have done this better, I think.

By: Judge No. 2

Score: 40
Peer Evaluation

General

  1. Complexity - I don't really know what the song qualifies as: Techno music or rave and whatnot.  But it has some of the same elements as those themes. It was alright in complexity though.

  2. Instrumentation - The piano was a nice effect. The snare kept the pulse of the song at a nice tempo. However, there was a certain part near the end where it sounded like the piano kept overlapping itself, it was a bit annoying.

  3. Composition - There was a melody at the end, where it was very recognizable. I liked that, but afterwards, it weirded out on me. Either there was a lack of melody, or it was being (outplayed) by the snares and effects.

  4. Initial Inspiration - The effects themselves have a nice way of presenting intensity. The piano just (gave me a tour) through that forest.  However, I do feel there was something lacking around this area. It just doesn't feel like you presented the picture well enough.

Specifics

  1. Opening - Nice way to open up the song. Already, it feels quite ambient.

  2. Middle - The piano is quite special in this area. It's interesting. I enjoyed the pulsations the song gave me. Somewhat heart-throbbing.

  3. Ending - The piano is over-used around here. I didn't like it that much. However there is a part when the piano plays a melody of some sort, I thought that was interesting. However, I see there is too much going on at the ending.

This song is very unique from all the other compositions. It was enjoyable and whatnot, but was very difficult to grade considering its level of uniqueness.

From the composer of: Abysmal Flames

Score: 64

From the composer of: Affordable Wisdom

Score: 82
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Complexity 3 15

Ha ha, indeed this seems to be a rather unfitting choice of a music style for this theme, but after listening to it for a few times, it does get more of an “interesting approach” than just an “inappropriate approach”. Well, to get to the point, the annoying thing of this piece was probably the endlessly repeating chords throughout the whole thing without even one variation. The nice thing about the piece, however, is that the composer has been very creative in the way of creating those “chapters”: most people use different melodies and chords to create different moods, but this piece tries to depict those phases not by changing the melody, but by changing everything around it. Not a winner in my opinion, but certainly a valuable and varying submission to this contest!

Orchestration 7 15
Composition 8 15
Appropriateness 12 20
Beginning/Start 4 5
Middle/Climax 3 5
Ending 2 5
Overall Opinion 13 20
Bonus/Malus

+5

Creative approach of the theme and creative way of changing moods

From the composer of: Blisters

Score: 57
Finally a song that sounds different from the others. For a first impression, it is quite good. I'm definitely okay with a composition using fruity loops.

For this piece, started out really good. However, the piano was under utilized. The melody or rather the motive wasn't developed at all, until towards the end of the piece (3:50), which is the only most major weakness of the piece i have against. More could be done to modify the melody at the 1-4 minutes.  I only hear the changing of the rhythm, which is all.  This piece would really be good if there were more melodies used by the piano, even more so if a 2nd instrument was added in occasionally or frequently if the orchestration of the piece is great.
 
Criterion Pts. Total
Complexity 9 15
Orchestration 8 15
Composition 11 15
Appropriateness 17 20
Beginning/Start 5 5
Middle/Climax 3 5
Ending 4 5
Overall Opinion 15 20
Bonus/Malus
Outstanding climax

+4

From the composer of: Fate of the Forest

Score: 76
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Complexity 10 20  
Orchestration 16 20  
Beginning 2 5  
Middle 2 5  
Ending 2 5  
Overall Composition Quality 16 25 In spite of occasional instrument changes, I never truly felt any change in the piece, since the beat and harmonic backing was mercilessly unchanging all the way through. The piece never gets "slow," it simply drops an instrument or two.
Appropriateness 16 20  

From the composer of: Forest Fire: A Brief Tone Poem for Orchestra

Score: 64

Although such is the style of techno music, I found this piece to be very repetitive.  I found myself unintentionally zoning out at times, which is something I never like doing (when listening to) music.  While there was some variation throughout the piece, I feel that there wasn’t enough to pull me out of the repetitive impression I got out of it.  I think a large factor was that relentless drum beat; (I felt more could be) done to vary the rhythm and add excitement.

The piece was fast and energetic, and I could relate this to the nature of a forest fire.  However, if I were to hear this piece in a different context I would not think of a forest fire.  Harmonically, there is nothing that suggests to me fire or destruction.  In my opinion, something other than techno would better convey these things.

Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 75 100
Appropriateness Lever 0.7 1.0

From the composer of: Inferno

Score: 53
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Setting 8 10

A nice, unique take, it creates the right mood.

Composition 4 10

Repetition is key here, and you offer no development or other techniques found in great compositions. It is techno music.

Orchestration 5 10

Same instruments over and over again, and all the ones you'd find in a typical song of this nature.

Overall Score 7 10

I kind of like techno, and I like some things you did with this.

From the composer of: Music for Trumpet and Strings

Score: 60
Criterion Pts. Total
Overall Evaluation 84 100
Appropriateness Lever 1.0 1.0

From the composer of: Of Desperation, Death, and Hope

Score: 84
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Relevance 8.5 10

Good job in this aspect – another piece that really sounded as chaotic as I’d imagine a forest fire. Good use of drums and effects, the techno sound was really refreshing. I can’t say much as I’m not familiar with the style, but I really do feel as if this was quite relevant to the topic. Bravo

Orchestration 8.5 10 Well done. The drums didn’t feel stale, and the piano lead worked well. Sometimes I wished for a little more variance as can be found in truly top notch trance music, but overall it was fulfilling. I could see hearing this in a strobe-lit rave party or something, probably to your credit . Good manipulation of fruity loops, good use of dynamic drum parts. Overall quite good, bravo.
Overall Effect 16 20 Overall good, I felt it was a little long and repetitive. Sometimes I wanted more variance – and I think with a bit of work this could be achieved. I can’t say a lot. Didn’t stick with me, but most techno music doesn’t. Good job.

From the composer of: Prelude for Solo Piano

Score: 83
Technical Elements [40/60]:
  • Harmony: A descending tetra chord gets old fast. You show that you understand triads though)
  • Development:  Hmmmm... the transitions / breaks from the pounding rhythmic ostinato are welcomed changes. You definitely have a sense of continuity in this piece as you continually add upon which you state at the beginning. In this sense, the piece is strong. Nicely done.
  • Orchestration:  Composing with synth is fun. Texturally, the ending gets a bit mushy. I think if you took the time to work out the harmonies you could have keep the texture busy without it colliding this much near the end.
  • Form:  Typical techno form. Starts off with the usual synth arpeggios followed by the pounding rhythm. It works for what it is. In fact, the beginning and end work quite well and the end really feels like an end. That is, it is not too abrupt and it doesn’t come out of nowhere. It’s hard to comment on this though since it is so far outside the musical realm in which I exist.

Musicality [15/20]:

  • It’s ok as far as techno pieces go.

Relevance [14/20]:

  • I don’t smell burning, do you? Unfortunately techno music does not have a programmatic association with a forest fire. I really don’t think this association works.

Overall Thoughts [C+ / Satisfactory].  Granted, it was a nice change from the film music / game music, but I really disagree that techno suits the fire theme well. 

From the composer of: The Dance of the Clumsy Bear

Score: 69
Criterion Pts. Total

Comments

Overall Evaluation 20 100

 

Appropriateness Lever 0.5 1.0

Trance (or Techno) songs don't match the picture, i think.

From the composer of: The Wildfire Suite

Score: 10

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